Dr. Yeadon, thanks. Your filing of a petition with the European Medicines Agency was a huge encouragement to my doing my first podcast in early December, 2020 on the mRNA vaccine. My expertise was much more general than what you and Dr. Wodarg brought to the discussion. In some ways, there is a role that I believe generalists play (the 35,000-foot argument) that obviously most infectious-disease physicians, immunologists, virologists, pulmonologists, pathologists, ICU-doctors and epidemiologists either could not, nor would not, execute.
I have long wanted to chat with you and hoped to possibly to do a podcast or video cast with you. I do not use Telegram and I've not known how to get in touch with you. I am also a klutz with lots of features of any format, but I have seemed to make a fair use of Substack's articles and their "Notes" tool. I do not indulge in trying to maximize anything, nor beyond glancing at follower numbers, do I bother with paywalls. I write to make a difference for the Good. My aims at financial security are spent on projects other than commentary. (I am still living out my college teaching impulses---one never retires from what is constitutionally inherent.)
To repeat: I will never put my commentary behind a paywall. The very people I hope to reach most, as well as the young (and old) future thought leadrs, are often not those with extra coins to be waste on mercenary writers.
I hope to see more of your writing here. This, the "Dr Mike Yeadon" site is a perfectly good site, no?
I'm glad you have support around you, Mike, to help you add the value you do, to all our lives. I only wish more would recognise the truth you so eloquently expose.
Let me help you get to it....I've been subscribed for a while and open it first before any others as I know it's recommended by Dr. Yeadon who singlehandedly is responsible for my decision to opt out from day one, for which I am ever grateful.
What do I tell my friends and acquaintances who got one or more shots and seem just fine still? I don't think a tissue of articles & essays & videos with cumulatively eye-glazing complexity which is supposed to verify a future event (of eventual vaccine injury) is sufficient to persuade most of them.
Most people are not injured by one or even several injections. If the dose of whatever is injurious was set to around a “lethal dose 1%”, as I estimate it may be, this would be the expected outcome.
Meanwhile, my granny smoked a pack of cigarettes a day and was completely fine until she was run over by a truck.
If their intent was mass murder, it seems to have been a ‘modest’ mass murder. I’m not closed to that theory, but wonder about questions it raises — e.g., why only a relative few? did they care to target specific people/groups or was it a random crap shoot? if the former, how would they accomplish specificity given the mass complexity of vaccine distribution?
If, however, the intent is a long-range mass murder of large scale (billions), it strikes me as (a) more easily and more cheaply doable other ways (poisoning water supplies, etc.); (b) as a massive global “controlled demolition” that would unleash conditions that could harm the masterminds themselves, which seems excessively risky for them.
This was both a short term mission and a long term one but the outcome will be the same, they will murder billions of people with the killer needle and those of us who didn’t avail of their generous offer will fall foul of their chemtrails and poisoning of the very food we eat and the water we drink and also not forgetting their constant warmongering! One way or another they intend to get rid of the useless eaters keeping just a few million to live on their knees at the feet of their evil masters! So it’s not a case of IF mass murder was their intention, IT IS THEIR ONLY INTENTION!
The eye glazing is another little side effect of the mRNA, their brain is fried so I wouldn’t bother trying to reach them, they don’t want to know, most of them are walking zombies now happily toddling towards the edge! Sometimes I slightly envy their blissful ignorance then i give myself a good talking to and I’m back!
With ALL due respect for you, your honesty and your courage, which is so much admirable (I feel like a coward when I compare myself to you, though I did lose my job over the scamdemic like you), I’d be careful with recommending Suavek’s publications…
You are a trained expert in the field of respiratory diseases and infectious diseases who understands the most complex mechanisms of cell biology. When I’ve had discussions with you about vaccines and their supposed mechanism of action I felt like I was talking to my colleagues, even though we often disagreed and still do, but respect each other's opinions, right?
Why?
Why do we still remain in contact and enjoy each other’s opinions?
Because we both understand that science is not a settled commandment written in the stone…That is why… We both believe in the same thing and if circumstances change or demand it, we have not problem doing it…
Why?
There are people out there that just don’t get it… I will not name names but they will end up in a really bad space… I have recently told someone that it seems I’m one of the very few people who questions the virology model that gets attacked by the very people who don’t support it because I haven’t bought into the no germ propaganda…
If no germs is propaganda, it ought to be easy to cite a study demonstrating pathogenecity and/or "contagion". With proper controls and blinding. If not with viruses, which they can't find to test, then with germs, bacteria, which they can easily isolate and test. Odd that no bacterium has ever fulfilled Koch's postulates. It should be really easy to demonstrate pathogenecity of bacteria: get a pure specimen, which they can get and expose someone to it by natural pathways. Give them some culprit bacterium in their food or drink, give others non toxic stuff in theirs, lie to the participants about the very low percentage of those to be exposed to a supposedly pathogenic bacterium (or some other way of minimizing nocebo). People won't get sick, they never have in properly controlled tests of any bacterium.
If contagion is real, then according to the story were've been told, the exposure risk is everywhere. Demonstrating contagion ought to be as easy as demonstrating gravity. But they can't do so in experiments with proper controls (which they don't bother with usually) double blinding (to try to minimize nocebo) and natural exposure, without stuffing some foreign matter up noses, etc. Just expose well people to sick people. They can never demonstrate this supposedly ubiquitous hazard.
Propaganda is as propaganda does. Thinkers try to prove what they regard as truth; propagandists depend on arguments from "consensus" and political "authority", and always...evasions.
Tom Cowan, one of the most prominent players and germ theory deniers has recently publicly admitted that there were two studies that have shown contagion…Are you familiar with the studies? Have you seen his interview with Kim Iversen? He wasn’t making this up, was he?
Respectfully, you are making the same argument as the vaccinators. There is no randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial demonstrating that the so-called covid vaccines cause any harm. So vaccine injury isn't a real thing, right? Wrong. There is plenty of experimental, observational, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence strongly suggesting that the vaccines are indeed harmful.
So, there may be no randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial that conclusively demonstrates viral pathogenicity. Granted. Yet there is plenty of experimental, observational, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence strongly suggesting that viral contagion is a real thing.
The anecdotal evidence for contagion amounts to people in the same environment coming down with similar symptoms typically during the winter months. Due to a mistake of the intellect the assumption is made that something is 'going around' and this essentially became a belief system. But when contagion studies are carried out - and there have been many - they appear to prove the opposite - that contagion is not happening. This suggests that something else is causing the symptoms. The idea that something is spreading from one person to another is merely an illusion.
I don't need faith. I need to see evidence that a so-called virus has been isolated and demonstrates the magical properties that have been attributed to it by introducing it to another organism through the usual pathways and observing for symptoms.
Again, if there are so many types of viruses always circulating why have I not suffered any symptoms in the last thirty years? Am I super-immune to to all known pathogens, even the novel coronavirus that supposedly no one could have immunity to because... it was... novel?
I lean towards agreeing that there is some kind of signalling going on between organisms that live together, thereby family units swear that they catch colds from each other all through the winter months especially when they have young children in school but in general I think this happens because a lot of people are simply detoxing at the same time, in other words, a seasonal event like leaves falling from the trees. Are the trees suffering from a disease? No. Is a virus going around? No. They are simply shedding old material making way for new.
On the other hand, I can see how fungus propagates when plants are unhealthy, but we can isolate and identify the fungus. No one has done the same for viruses and until they do virology and viral contagion are a question of faith.
“ I don't need faith. I need to see evidence that a so-called virus has been isolated and demonstrates the magical properties that have been attributed to it by introducing it to another organism through the usual pathways and observing for symptoms.”
I can agree with this statement to a degree but then there is quantum mechanics with invisible forces connecting particles of matter…
Do you know that we can prevent normal cell functions by disrupting quantum correlations? Do you know what that means?
Actually, there is… the very first study Pfizer published with 15 dead in vaccine group and 12 in placebo. You should look this up. This study convinced a sceptic like me that mRNA vaccines were BS and harmful…
Yep, I'm aware of that trial. But the vaccinators simply dismiss it stating there is no evidence the 15 deaths had anything to do with the vaxxiine. Just like people in the "no virus" camp tend to simply dismiss any studies which demonstrate viral contagion.
By the way, during the covid years, I slowly transformed from an enthusiastic vaxxer into a complete anti-vaxxer. The first clue was the case of transverse myelitis in the Astra Zeneca trial and the rumours about a second case a few months earlier. Transverse myelitis is very rare, so one case could be a strange coincidence, but two cases in the same trial cannot be a random occurrence.
Or this experiment where they sort of gain-of-functioned H5N1 and subsequently demonstrated that ferrets can infect each other via airborne transmission: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22723413/
I also suggest that one of the studies Dr Yeadon cited in anotger substack article (Burnet and Foley, 1940) does contain evidence for, not against, viral transmission. Yes, they concluded that their experiment was a failure, but not in the sense that no infection took place. It was a failure because their immunization attempts failed and some people still got sick after being exposed to the non-attenuated strain.
These are just 3 random examples.
There are literally thousands, probably tens of thousands more. You could also take almost any vaxxiine trial as example. As I said I don't have the time to discuss them all. But for starters that should do.
But you ignore the crux of my point, which is virology and the idea of pathogenic germs has been falsified. The falsification has been demonstrated hundreds and hundreds of times In formal experiments designed by virus and germs enthusiasts.
If you are convinced for instance that viruses are real and if you are rational, then go ahead and prove some virus exists. Cite a study that proves this. You won't be able to do so.
If you still want to believe this story for some reason, that's up to you. But belief is not knowledge.
Yes Tomas, the virus story has been falsified, in the sense that no published study proves virus existence, because proof requires isolation of the thing they're trying to show exists. No isolate, then no proof. Please cite a specific study wherein a virus has been physically seperated from all other things and kept by itself as a pure specimen---an isolate in other words. You won't find one. because no such studies exist.
This is not hard to understand. They have no virus isolate--no pure specimen of virions--in all the history of virus hunting. Why do you imagine they concoct artifical cell cultures to "isolate this or that virus" (which doesn't isolate anything as I'll explain below)? They perform their virologists' ritualistic procedure BECAUSE they have never been able to physically isolate any virions. Christine Massey of Canada has queried 225 public health agencies from everywhere: "Do you know of a study that attains virion isolation physically from the fluids or tissues of a sick person for this particular virus?" Always the answer: "We have no such studies." This is an important fact to keep in mind. Public health agencies world wide, 225 of them, admit to knowing of no studies demonstrating physical virus isolation from sick people as pertains to 15 different viruses so far.
Not being able to find and isolate viruses from sick people/animals, virologists try to find "indirect evidence" of "virus infection".
They make an artifical "cell culture" consisting usually of monkey kidney cells, sometimes of human or calf embryo cells, to which they add a couple powerful antibiotics, antifungals, dye, other gunk, and a starvation medium of fetal calf serum to partly nourish stressed cells that were taken from an organism. Now they add to this artifical concoction snot or some fluid from sick people that they hope contains "viruses". They wait for 5-7 days, peer through an electron microscope, and see about half the time cells dying, swelling and bursting into decomposed shards in the form of tiny microscopic particles. That's the Great Ritual. The cells dying is caused by a viral infection, so they claim.
Of course, something else that's actually proven to exist might cause the cells to die instead, such as antibiotics, antifungals, starvation, and stress. That in fact is what very likely accounts for the cells dying in the petrie dish, not a never-found-and-isolated mental construct they name "virus".
In fact, when one conducts an appropriate control study, this procedure is falsifed as a means of demonstrating virus presence. If one uses the same culture concoction, but does not inoculate it with snot or other fluids from a sick person, the same effect of dying cells occurs IN A CULTURE THAT VIROLOGISTS ADMIT HAS NO VIRUSES.
Control studies, most of them done by virologists, have demonstrated this "cytopathic effect" in uninoculated (not exposed to "infectious material") cultures around 26 times from the 1940s through around today. These findings have been published in various medical journals and then ignored and forgotten. Jamie Andrews of U.K. has conducted 94 such experiments and in every one the "uninfected" cell culture produced as much incidence of cells dying as in the "infected" culture.
The virologists' ritual provides no indirect evidence of a viral infection passed from snot or urine from a sick person to their cell culture. This method, which is their only means of trying to demonstrate indirectly the presence of some virus, has been falsifed. They have "isolated" nothing, even after they changed the meaning of that key word.
Regarding the two studies you mentioned, hunt them down and post them here. I do not have time to get them for you. I know about them--and over 200 other studies--because I read Daniel Roytas' book that demonstrates the failure to prove contagion. Out of 203 studies, 4 experiments (2%) accounted for nearly one-half of the positive reports of contagion, which is suspicious. Removing those outliers and adjusting for the nocebo effect and false positives, only 22% of the total studies reported positive contagion results. But those postive results prove nothing, in the sense of eliminating other plausible explanations, for a clear reason. The studies almost never used proper controls or blinding, both necessary to eliminate confounding factors such as people getting sick because they've been exposed and are worrried, or because study designers want to get positive results and so report colds or flu based on tiny expression of symptoms unlike those of the people to whom they were exposed, and so forth. Moreoever, 73 of the studies failed to make a single person ill after shock and awe approaches to (unnatural) exposure. That fact alone invalidates contagion, because it would not be possible in a world in which contagion is an actual hazard. The average contagion rate--(ignoring lack of control studies and blinding)--was 32%. The modal contagion rate (modal means "characteristic of the complete data set") was 0%. If you want to know and understand what is true and not true about contagion, read the book. Can You Catch a Cold?
Again, I don't have time to hunt down the two studies you referenced but I'll comment if you present them here. Meanwhile, in his most recent livestream talk, Dr. Cowan shows a request-question he submitted to an AI app: Can you find any studies wherein contagion experiments that have been properly controlled, blinded, and without reliance of molecular testing, that demonstrate contagion? The AI Wizard went all the way back to the 1860s, no such studies exist proving contagion. Cowan shows on screen his question and the one sentence answer that came back.
“Yes Tomas, the virus story has been falsified, in the sense that no published study proves virus existence, because proof requires isolation of the thing they're trying to show exists. No isolate, then no proof“
This is where you lost me… So, you don’t really know? Have you ever observed eukaryotic cells in real time? I doubt it…
"observational, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence"
Derren Brown did a show where he showed people a short film that made them stick to their seats (i.e 'polio like symptoms'). This demonstrates how the belief in a virus could manifest experiences. Your observational, circumstantial and anecdotal reports are not evidence of a pathogenic virus but can easily be explained by the belief in one. The viral contagion is 'real' in a sense since it is propagated by language and beliefs. It is not remotely surprising that spreading destructive ideology could lead to casualties but very well known in psychology. There is zero excuse for conducting such abuse.
I have a question for you. Is "no virus" and/or "no contagion" only applicable to respiratory illnesses? Or in general? What about TBE for example, which is allegedly caused by a virus that is spread by tick bites? Or Ebola? A are these also not contagious and/or not caused by virii?
You can add a fruit to your avatar and then you can help fruitinate people. I don't normally discuss with unfruitinated people so let me know once you have added fruit to your avatar and I will look into your questions.
The lack of proof for contagion and for virus existence is not restricted to respiratory illnesses. The lack of proof extends to every alleged virus, and bacterium (real, not alleged).
Logic requires one first observe and prove the existence of pathogenic "virus" particles. En route, one must not only prove pathogenecity, but also prove the "virus-candidate" particles "infect" (go into) "cells", self-replicate by "hijacking the cellular machinery" (everyone uses that phrase without meaning or proof), jump from cell to cell and from "infected" to "uninfected" organisms.
To try to accomplish any of the foregoing, one must first gather and isolate (seperate from everything else) suspicious particles one believes for some reason might later be scientifically demonstrated to sicken and spread illness. But as has been repeated and proven over and over, enthusiastic believers in viruses have never accomplished isolation.
Just as important, no one has ever proven "contagion" in any sound study that implements proper control studies and proper blinding. This seems unbelievable to folks who have made their own observations concerning contagious events, but unrigorous casual observations do not prove. "Contagious" events observed by the naive can be explained by other causes, which uncontrolled and unblinded studies do not address.
Of course, virology was invented to explain apparent instances of "contagion", which were always disputed in earlier times by intelligent scientists. Because there is no proof of contagion despite hundreds of experiments trying to do so, there is no logical justification for inventing viruses to explain a non-event.
Also, science studies that falsify contagion mostly do not get published. This is not surprising, since the program rewards affirmation not dissent.
“ The lack of proof for contagion and for virus existence is not restricted to respiratory illnesses. The lack of proof extends to every alleged virus, and bacterium (real, not alleged).”
You’ve never heard of antibiotic or chloroquine resistance???
Neither have the germ theory deniers and their labs have never performed tests on that by the scientific method…
Is it not strange? Why would they deny something so obvious that is confirmed in tens of thousands of labs every day?
Is it possible because they have been married to their own narratives?
Because you don’t know the contents of our conversations, you don’t know what Mike I and only know. Mike is a free man as I am, I think. I’ve simply warned Mike about the possibility of being taken advantage of by lay men who have no knowledge he possesses… This was the danger and he had fallen for it…
The good thing about Mike is that he is humble. So, as soon as he realized some of the mistakes he had made, he made adjustments. He is a true scientist and a human being….
I was simply asking why you felt dr Mike should be careful regarding his recommendation of suavek, I’ve no doubt he only endorsed his platform because he trusts him and if on the off chance that happens to be misplaced then so be it but that is dr mike’s choice to make.
I didn’t ask you to reveal what you and dr Mike talked about (if you even did) and no, I haven’t read anything regarding your disagreement with suavek.
President John Quincy Adams: “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
Many thanks for your dedicated 5 year pus stance , Mike ...
Australia is in election prep month - April 2025 , for a May 3rd federal poll;
Many, myself included, are Pushing hard for a lot more to expose the truth about Covid vaccines ...as we have done in sync with your very honest & consistent reality claims , from day 1.
We are going for nonfeasance - directly for an RC : pre election preferred ; re a duopoly of parties that have “ fully adhered to the instructions on Covid from big Pharma -
ANY disruption , we need an RC : or intervention of any kind ... you will hear things hearing up here from 9/4/25
Thank you ....Les
Les Kraft, is Les Catterwell ,, is Les Katt
Good luck , mate , all of Australia has NOT forgotten what you stood up for, & managed to be ‘ true to label ‘
Thank you so much for your following logic where it demands we all go if only we had the courage. I was alerted to the horrible crimes of Fauci and his globalist billionaire sponsors by Francis Boyle in late 2019 and started on Substack over two years ago. One Covid jab death In my family and at least two injuries of unknown long term consequences. I’ve passed your work along at johngcoster.substack.c om. Of course, this was an intentional crime. For most people Dylan’s line wrings true: “some things are too terrible to know.” But alas, worse to ignore.
Yes, thank you Dr Mike for these reminders. Why hasn’t tread Trump and RFK pulled these bioweapons from the market ?
With one stroke of a pen (just like re-establishing border protection for ex.) an EXECUTIVE order BANNING this bioweapon (Covid vax) Should have been done on DAY 1 !
Please read -“Americas Soul Under SiEge: The Implosion of the Middle Class and … “ By L A Cohen. (2024) just came out recently.
It sheds so much understanding as to who what why this bioweapon and others like chem trails, GMO foods, etc are being used to de-populate the US and the globe.
Americas Soul is truly under Siege by the greedy evil Banksters and global elite. But there is hope. Dr Cohen describes what We the People Must do before it’s too late 🙏🏼. Great read. Every American should have a copy of this brilliant book !!!
Dr Yeadon, I have been following you since early 2020. It would be an understatement to call you somewhat of a hero. Thank you for your courage.
I write because as all of this poppy cock unfolds; you seem to be the only one that has got an ‘actual’ gauge on what is happening.
I am so grateful for your voice, and in awe of your courage. And so comforted that you seem to see what I see.
I think there is a link with blood. There’s definitely a key piece in the blood. After working in a path lab in northern Australia - I know there’s a key in the blood.
Thank you so much again for everything you do and the voice that you give the right side.
I am just an ordinary bod, who would like to live an extraordinary life like everyone else, if the YXZs who want to interfere with our private business would just mind their own business!
I respect you and your position Mike, because you have stated your claim and been balanced in defending your claim from the beginning.
Dr David Martin is another, who has been solid from the start and has not given ground.
David says CV is not a virus, but a technology designed using a viral model.
I trust "this science", because it stands in the face of all the other raging wars between experts and non-experts, muddying the waters of discourse.
This explanation explains, why doctors and scientists and various others are going up their trees and hurling nuts at each other, over this, that and the other!
Very few seem to really understand what are the real foundational facts.
They are not occupying the same foundational ground and therefore cannot see the whole picture clearly.
Mike, David and a few others make sense to me.
The rest make some sense, but not enough for me to buy their cars!
What do I know?
I'm just an ordinary bod who prefers riding a horse to driving a car!
Thank you, Mike, for providing this option to access your Telegram content.
I've never used a smart phone (for health and privacy reasons), so I appreciate having this alternative option for following your work.
Thank you . Yes , intentional.
Dr. Yeadon, thanks. Your filing of a petition with the European Medicines Agency was a huge encouragement to my doing my first podcast in early December, 2020 on the mRNA vaccine. My expertise was much more general than what you and Dr. Wodarg brought to the discussion. In some ways, there is a role that I believe generalists play (the 35,000-foot argument) that obviously most infectious-disease physicians, immunologists, virologists, pulmonologists, pathologists, ICU-doctors and epidemiologists either could not, nor would not, execute.
I have long wanted to chat with you and hoped to possibly to do a podcast or video cast with you. I do not use Telegram and I've not known how to get in touch with you. I am also a klutz with lots of features of any format, but I have seemed to make a fair use of Substack's articles and their "Notes" tool. I do not indulge in trying to maximize anything, nor beyond glancing at follower numbers, do I bother with paywalls. I write to make a difference for the Good. My aims at financial security are spent on projects other than commentary. (I am still living out my college teaching impulses---one never retires from what is constitutionally inherent.)
To repeat: I will never put my commentary behind a paywall. The very people I hope to reach most, as well as the young (and old) future thought leadrs, are often not those with extra coins to be waste on mercenary writers.
I hope to see more of your writing here. This, the "Dr Mike Yeadon" site is a perfectly good site, no?
---DS
I concur: Suavek's substack is fantastic! I've been subscribing for a few months.
I'm glad you have support around you, Mike, to help you add the value you do, to all our lives. I only wish more would recognise the truth you so eloquently expose.
Mike, I do not "do" other social media; just a substacker.
BUT, I will read Suavek's publication since YOU recommend it. This one time.
Let me help you get to it....I've been subscribed for a while and open it first before any others as I know it's recommended by Dr. Yeadon who singlehandedly is responsible for my decision to opt out from day one, for which I am ever grateful.
This is from today...https://suavek1.substack.com/p/the-arguments-for-no-virus-part-20
thank you Wendy.
I HAD already . . . gotten it.
What do I tell my friends and acquaintances who got one or more shots and seem just fine still? I don't think a tissue of articles & essays & videos with cumulatively eye-glazing complexity which is supposed to verify a future event (of eventual vaccine injury) is sufficient to persuade most of them.
Most people are not injured by one or even several injections. If the dose of whatever is injurious was set to around a “lethal dose 1%”, as I estimate it may be, this would be the expected outcome.
Meanwhile, my granny smoked a pack of cigarettes a day and was completely fine until she was run over by a truck.
I’d take my chances with a truck any day over the poison needle!
If their intent was mass murder, it seems to have been a ‘modest’ mass murder. I’m not closed to that theory, but wonder about questions it raises — e.g., why only a relative few? did they care to target specific people/groups or was it a random crap shoot? if the former, how would they accomplish specificity given the mass complexity of vaccine distribution?
If, however, the intent is a long-range mass murder of large scale (billions), it strikes me as (a) more easily and more cheaply doable other ways (poisoning water supplies, etc.); (b) as a massive global “controlled demolition” that would unleash conditions that could harm the masterminds themselves, which seems excessively risky for them.
This was both a short term mission and a long term one but the outcome will be the same, they will murder billions of people with the killer needle and those of us who didn’t avail of their generous offer will fall foul of their chemtrails and poisoning of the very food we eat and the water we drink and also not forgetting their constant warmongering! One way or another they intend to get rid of the useless eaters keeping just a few million to live on their knees at the feet of their evil masters! So it’s not a case of IF mass murder was their intention, IT IS THEIR ONLY INTENTION!
The eye glazing is another little side effect of the mRNA, their brain is fried so I wouldn’t bother trying to reach them, they don’t want to know, most of them are walking zombies now happily toddling towards the edge! Sometimes I slightly envy their blissful ignorance then i give myself a good talking to and I’m back!
Mike,
With ALL due respect for you, your honesty and your courage, which is so much admirable (I feel like a coward when I compare myself to you, though I did lose my job over the scamdemic like you), I’d be careful with recommending Suavek’s publications…
You are a trained expert in the field of respiratory diseases and infectious diseases who understands the most complex mechanisms of cell biology. When I’ve had discussions with you about vaccines and their supposed mechanism of action I felt like I was talking to my colleagues, even though we often disagreed and still do, but respect each other's opinions, right?
Why?
Why do we still remain in contact and enjoy each other’s opinions?
Because we both understand that science is not a settled commandment written in the stone…That is why… We both believe in the same thing and if circumstances change or demand it, we have not problem doing it…
Why?
There are people out there that just don’t get it… I will not name names but they will end up in a really bad space… I have recently told someone that it seems I’m one of the very few people who questions the virology model that gets attacked by the very people who don’t support it because I haven’t bought into the no germ propaganda…
If no germs is propaganda, it ought to be easy to cite a study demonstrating pathogenecity and/or "contagion". With proper controls and blinding. If not with viruses, which they can't find to test, then with germs, bacteria, which they can easily isolate and test. Odd that no bacterium has ever fulfilled Koch's postulates. It should be really easy to demonstrate pathogenecity of bacteria: get a pure specimen, which they can get and expose someone to it by natural pathways. Give them some culprit bacterium in their food or drink, give others non toxic stuff in theirs, lie to the participants about the very low percentage of those to be exposed to a supposedly pathogenic bacterium (or some other way of minimizing nocebo). People won't get sick, they never have in properly controlled tests of any bacterium.
If contagion is real, then according to the story were've been told, the exposure risk is everywhere. Demonstrating contagion ought to be as easy as demonstrating gravity. But they can't do so in experiments with proper controls (which they don't bother with usually) double blinding (to try to minimize nocebo) and natural exposure, without stuffing some foreign matter up noses, etc. Just expose well people to sick people. They can never demonstrate this supposedly ubiquitous hazard.
Propaganda is as propaganda does. Thinkers try to prove what they regard as truth; propagandists depend on arguments from "consensus" and political "authority", and always...evasions.
Tom Cowan, one of the most prominent players and germ theory deniers has recently publicly admitted that there were two studies that have shown contagion…Are you familiar with the studies? Have you seen his interview with Kim Iversen? He wasn’t making this up, was he?
Here is the link:
https://rumble.com/v6rh2e3-there-was-no-covid-virus-how-weve-all-been-duped-by-the-medical-establishme.html
Respectfully, you are making the same argument as the vaccinators. There is no randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial demonstrating that the so-called covid vaccines cause any harm. So vaccine injury isn't a real thing, right? Wrong. There is plenty of experimental, observational, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence strongly suggesting that the vaccines are indeed harmful.
So, there may be no randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial that conclusively demonstrates viral pathogenicity. Granted. Yet there is plenty of experimental, observational, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence strongly suggesting that viral contagion is a real thing.
The anecdotal evidence for contagion amounts to people in the same environment coming down with similar symptoms typically during the winter months. Due to a mistake of the intellect the assumption is made that something is 'going around' and this essentially became a belief system. But when contagion studies are carried out - and there have been many - they appear to prove the opposite - that contagion is not happening. This suggests that something else is causing the symptoms. The idea that something is spreading from one person to another is merely an illusion.
I agree but even a sceptic like you must admit there may be some truth to anecdotal evidence…
I can prove it to you with the scientific method…
Do you have faith in your convictions?
I don't need faith. I need to see evidence that a so-called virus has been isolated and demonstrates the magical properties that have been attributed to it by introducing it to another organism through the usual pathways and observing for symptoms.
Again, if there are so many types of viruses always circulating why have I not suffered any symptoms in the last thirty years? Am I super-immune to to all known pathogens, even the novel coronavirus that supposedly no one could have immunity to because... it was... novel?
I lean towards agreeing that there is some kind of signalling going on between organisms that live together, thereby family units swear that they catch colds from each other all through the winter months especially when they have young children in school but in general I think this happens because a lot of people are simply detoxing at the same time, in other words, a seasonal event like leaves falling from the trees. Are the trees suffering from a disease? No. Is a virus going around? No. They are simply shedding old material making way for new.
On the other hand, I can see how fungus propagates when plants are unhealthy, but we can isolate and identify the fungus. No one has done the same for viruses and until they do virology and viral contagion are a question of faith.
The body cleaning house as it was designed to do before big harma got involved.
“ I don't need faith. I need to see evidence that a so-called virus has been isolated and demonstrates the magical properties that have been attributed to it by introducing it to another organism through the usual pathways and observing for symptoms.”
I can agree with this statement to a degree but then there is quantum mechanics with invisible forces connecting particles of matter…
Do you know that we can prevent normal cell functions by disrupting quantum correlations? Do you know what that means?
Actually, there is… the very first study Pfizer published with 15 dead in vaccine group and 12 in placebo. You should look this up. This study convinced a sceptic like me that mRNA vaccines were BS and harmful…
Yep, I'm aware of that trial. But the vaccinators simply dismiss it stating there is no evidence the 15 deaths had anything to do with the vaxxiine. Just like people in the "no virus" camp tend to simply dismiss any studies which demonstrate viral contagion.
By the way, during the covid years, I slowly transformed from an enthusiastic vaxxer into a complete anti-vaxxer. The first clue was the case of transverse myelitis in the Astra Zeneca trial and the rumours about a second case a few months earlier. Transverse myelitis is very rare, so one case could be a strange coincidence, but two cases in the same trial cannot be a random occurrence.
What studies might those be? You sound like a 'vax' pusher alluding to some tobacco science you don't actually want anyone to look at.
I don't have the time and resources to make a comprehensive list so I'll just copy and paste from a previous post:
Take for instance the RSV story from 1956 where chimpanzees infected not only each other but also a laboratory worker: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13359460/
Or this experiment where they sort of gain-of-functioned H5N1 and subsequently demonstrated that ferrets can infect each other via airborne transmission: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22723413/
I also suggest that one of the studies Dr Yeadon cited in anotger substack article (Burnet and Foley, 1940) does contain evidence for, not against, viral transmission. Yes, they concluded that their experiment was a failure, but not in the sense that no infection took place. It was a failure because their immunization attempts failed and some people still got sick after being exposed to the non-attenuated strain.
These are just 3 random examples.
There are literally thousands, probably tens of thousands more. You could also take almost any vaxxiine trial as example. As I said I don't have the time to discuss them all. But for starters that should do.
But you ignore the crux of my point, which is virology and the idea of pathogenic germs has been falsified. The falsification has been demonstrated hundreds and hundreds of times In formal experiments designed by virus and germs enthusiasts.
If you are convinced for instance that viruses are real and if you are rational, then go ahead and prove some virus exists. Cite a study that proves this. You won't be able to do so.
If you still want to believe this story for some reason, that's up to you. But belief is not knowledge.
It has not been falsified… if it were, I’d be the first one blowing my one trumpet…
Yes Tomas, the virus story has been falsified, in the sense that no published study proves virus existence, because proof requires isolation of the thing they're trying to show exists. No isolate, then no proof. Please cite a specific study wherein a virus has been physically seperated from all other things and kept by itself as a pure specimen---an isolate in other words. You won't find one. because no such studies exist.
This is not hard to understand. They have no virus isolate--no pure specimen of virions--in all the history of virus hunting. Why do you imagine they concoct artifical cell cultures to "isolate this or that virus" (which doesn't isolate anything as I'll explain below)? They perform their virologists' ritualistic procedure BECAUSE they have never been able to physically isolate any virions. Christine Massey of Canada has queried 225 public health agencies from everywhere: "Do you know of a study that attains virion isolation physically from the fluids or tissues of a sick person for this particular virus?" Always the answer: "We have no such studies." This is an important fact to keep in mind. Public health agencies world wide, 225 of them, admit to knowing of no studies demonstrating physical virus isolation from sick people as pertains to 15 different viruses so far.
Not being able to find and isolate viruses from sick people/animals, virologists try to find "indirect evidence" of "virus infection".
They make an artifical "cell culture" consisting usually of monkey kidney cells, sometimes of human or calf embryo cells, to which they add a couple powerful antibiotics, antifungals, dye, other gunk, and a starvation medium of fetal calf serum to partly nourish stressed cells that were taken from an organism. Now they add to this artifical concoction snot or some fluid from sick people that they hope contains "viruses". They wait for 5-7 days, peer through an electron microscope, and see about half the time cells dying, swelling and bursting into decomposed shards in the form of tiny microscopic particles. That's the Great Ritual. The cells dying is caused by a viral infection, so they claim.
Of course, something else that's actually proven to exist might cause the cells to die instead, such as antibiotics, antifungals, starvation, and stress. That in fact is what very likely accounts for the cells dying in the petrie dish, not a never-found-and-isolated mental construct they name "virus".
In fact, when one conducts an appropriate control study, this procedure is falsifed as a means of demonstrating virus presence. If one uses the same culture concoction, but does not inoculate it with snot or other fluids from a sick person, the same effect of dying cells occurs IN A CULTURE THAT VIROLOGISTS ADMIT HAS NO VIRUSES.
Control studies, most of them done by virologists, have demonstrated this "cytopathic effect" in uninoculated (not exposed to "infectious material") cultures around 26 times from the 1940s through around today. These findings have been published in various medical journals and then ignored and forgotten. Jamie Andrews of U.K. has conducted 94 such experiments and in every one the "uninfected" cell culture produced as much incidence of cells dying as in the "infected" culture.
The virologists' ritual provides no indirect evidence of a viral infection passed from snot or urine from a sick person to their cell culture. This method, which is their only means of trying to demonstrate indirectly the presence of some virus, has been falsifed. They have "isolated" nothing, even after they changed the meaning of that key word.
Regarding the two studies you mentioned, hunt them down and post them here. I do not have time to get them for you. I know about them--and over 200 other studies--because I read Daniel Roytas' book that demonstrates the failure to prove contagion. Out of 203 studies, 4 experiments (2%) accounted for nearly one-half of the positive reports of contagion, which is suspicious. Removing those outliers and adjusting for the nocebo effect and false positives, only 22% of the total studies reported positive contagion results. But those postive results prove nothing, in the sense of eliminating other plausible explanations, for a clear reason. The studies almost never used proper controls or blinding, both necessary to eliminate confounding factors such as people getting sick because they've been exposed and are worrried, or because study designers want to get positive results and so report colds or flu based on tiny expression of symptoms unlike those of the people to whom they were exposed, and so forth. Moreoever, 73 of the studies failed to make a single person ill after shock and awe approaches to (unnatural) exposure. That fact alone invalidates contagion, because it would not be possible in a world in which contagion is an actual hazard. The average contagion rate--(ignoring lack of control studies and blinding)--was 32%. The modal contagion rate (modal means "characteristic of the complete data set") was 0%. If you want to know and understand what is true and not true about contagion, read the book. Can You Catch a Cold?
Again, I don't have time to hunt down the two studies you referenced but I'll comment if you present them here. Meanwhile, in his most recent livestream talk, Dr. Cowan shows a request-question he submitted to an AI app: Can you find any studies wherein contagion experiments that have been properly controlled, blinded, and without reliance of molecular testing, that demonstrate contagion? The AI Wizard went all the way back to the 1860s, no such studies exist proving contagion. Cowan shows on screen his question and the one sentence answer that came back.
“Yes Tomas, the virus story has been falsified, in the sense that no published study proves virus existence, because proof requires isolation of the thing they're trying to show exists. No isolate, then no proof“
This is where you lost me… So, you don’t really know? Have you ever observed eukaryotic cells in real time? I doubt it…
"observational, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence"
Derren Brown did a show where he showed people a short film that made them stick to their seats (i.e 'polio like symptoms'). This demonstrates how the belief in a virus could manifest experiences. Your observational, circumstantial and anecdotal reports are not evidence of a pathogenic virus but can easily be explained by the belief in one. The viral contagion is 'real' in a sense since it is propagated by language and beliefs. It is not remotely surprising that spreading destructive ideology could lead to casualties but very well known in psychology. There is zero excuse for conducting such abuse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyIilWb9SW0
cute but too much pink..only watched the first half.
I have a question for you. Is "no virus" and/or "no contagion" only applicable to respiratory illnesses? Or in general? What about TBE for example, which is allegedly caused by a virus that is spread by tick bites? Or Ebola? A are these also not contagious and/or not caused by virii?
You can add a fruit to your avatar and then you can help fruitinate people. I don't normally discuss with unfruitinated people so let me know once you have added fruit to your avatar and I will look into your questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDjitrJWQLo
The lack of proof for contagion and for virus existence is not restricted to respiratory illnesses. The lack of proof extends to every alleged virus, and bacterium (real, not alleged).
Logic requires one first observe and prove the existence of pathogenic "virus" particles. En route, one must not only prove pathogenecity, but also prove the "virus-candidate" particles "infect" (go into) "cells", self-replicate by "hijacking the cellular machinery" (everyone uses that phrase without meaning or proof), jump from cell to cell and from "infected" to "uninfected" organisms.
To try to accomplish any of the foregoing, one must first gather and isolate (seperate from everything else) suspicious particles one believes for some reason might later be scientifically demonstrated to sicken and spread illness. But as has been repeated and proven over and over, enthusiastic believers in viruses have never accomplished isolation.
Just as important, no one has ever proven "contagion" in any sound study that implements proper control studies and proper blinding. This seems unbelievable to folks who have made their own observations concerning contagious events, but unrigorous casual observations do not prove. "Contagious" events observed by the naive can be explained by other causes, which uncontrolled and unblinded studies do not address.
Of course, virology was invented to explain apparent instances of "contagion", which were always disputed in earlier times by intelligent scientists. Because there is no proof of contagion despite hundreds of experiments trying to do so, there is no logical justification for inventing viruses to explain a non-event.
Also, science studies that falsify contagion mostly do not get published. This is not surprising, since the program rewards affirmation not dissent.
“ The lack of proof for contagion and for virus existence is not restricted to respiratory illnesses. The lack of proof extends to every alleged virus, and bacterium (real, not alleged).”
You’ve never heard of antibiotic or chloroquine resistance???
Neither have the germ theory deniers and their labs have never performed tests on that by the scientific method…
Is it not strange? Why would they deny something so obvious that is confirmed in tens of thousands of labs every day?
Is it possible because they have been married to their own narratives?
But none of this has any bearing on why Dr Mike should be careful of recommending suavek’s publications if you don’t mind me saying so.
Because you don’t know the contents of our conversations, you don’t know what Mike I and only know. Mike is a free man as I am, I think. I’ve simply warned Mike about the possibility of being taken advantage of by lay men who have no knowledge he possesses… This was the danger and he had fallen for it…
The good thing about Mike is that he is humble. So, as soon as he realized some of the mistakes he had made, he made adjustments. He is a true scientist and a human being….
I was simply asking why you felt dr Mike should be careful regarding his recommendation of suavek, I’ve no doubt he only endorsed his platform because he trusts him and if on the off chance that happens to be misplaced then so be it but that is dr mike’s choice to make.
I am not going to reveal what Mike and I spoke about privately. I don’t care what you think. Sorry.
However, have you had a chance to see what Suavek wrote in response to my challenge before he banned me on his substack?
I didn’t ask you to reveal what you and dr Mike talked about (if you even did) and no, I haven’t read anything regarding your disagreement with suavek.
Here's the link for people to subscribe to Mike's recommended substack which repeats his Telegram posts:
https://suavek1.substack.com/
Keep the good work!
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Please share, not the articles, but the information! I'm expendable. Saving the free world, is not!
Many thanks for your dedicated 5 year pus stance , Mike ...
Australia is in election prep month - April 2025 , for a May 3rd federal poll;
Many, myself included, are Pushing hard for a lot more to expose the truth about Covid vaccines ...as we have done in sync with your very honest & consistent reality claims , from day 1.
We are going for nonfeasance - directly for an RC : pre election preferred ; re a duopoly of parties that have “ fully adhered to the instructions on Covid from big Pharma -
ANY disruption , we need an RC : or intervention of any kind ... you will hear things hearing up here from 9/4/25
Thank you ....Les
Les Kraft, is Les Catterwell ,, is Les Katt
Good luck , mate , all of Australia has NOT forgotten what you stood up for, & managed to be ‘ true to label ‘
The Calvary approaches ...
Telegram is toxic, and there is no way I will bother with it.
I agree it’s toxic. ALL social media platforms are, by design intent.
In my case, Telegram & Substack are the only publicly accessible sites where I can so far write freely in my one name.
So far, Substack seems to be a decent enough platform.
I dread what happens when it is infiltrated by 'Influencers', but it is almost inevitable.
Mike - do you realise how much we love you? Just asking!
Very true, Musk himself says that you may have Freedom of Speech, but that you are not entitled to Freedom of Reach: https://x.com/LegerPhoenix3/status/1783304386866819202
Why would one waste any time posting on his platform?
Thank you so much for your following logic where it demands we all go if only we had the courage. I was alerted to the horrible crimes of Fauci and his globalist billionaire sponsors by Francis Boyle in late 2019 and started on Substack over two years ago. One Covid jab death In my family and at least two injuries of unknown long term consequences. I’ve passed your work along at johngcoster.substack.c om. Of course, this was an intentional crime. For most people Dylan’s line wrings true: “some things are too terrible to know.” But alas, worse to ignore.
Yes, thank you Dr Mike for these reminders. Why hasn’t tread Trump and RFK pulled these bioweapons from the market ?
With one stroke of a pen (just like re-establishing border protection for ex.) an EXECUTIVE order BANNING this bioweapon (Covid vax) Should have been done on DAY 1 !
Please read -“Americas Soul Under SiEge: The Implosion of the Middle Class and … “ By L A Cohen. (2024) just came out recently.
It sheds so much understanding as to who what why this bioweapon and others like chem trails, GMO foods, etc are being used to de-populate the US and the globe.
Americas Soul is truly under Siege by the greedy evil Banksters and global elite. But there is hope. Dr Cohen describes what We the People Must do before it’s too late 🙏🏼. Great read. Every American should have a copy of this brilliant book !!!
Thank you Dr Yeadon for your courage, sharing truth and directing us to prepare and put God first.
Book gone viral has honorable mention of your bravery and genius
Just released 2024 .. called Americas Soul Under Siege: The Implosion of the Middle Class…” by Dr L Cohen. Brilliant, spot on !!!!
God bless everyone here 🙏🏼❤️
Done. I was an avid telegram subscriber Mike but got overload from too many sources. This suggestion is well received.
Dr Yeadon, I have been following you since early 2020. It would be an understatement to call you somewhat of a hero. Thank you for your courage.
I write because as all of this poppy cock unfolds; you seem to be the only one that has got an ‘actual’ gauge on what is happening.
I am so grateful for your voice, and in awe of your courage. And so comforted that you seem to see what I see.
I think there is a link with blood. There’s definitely a key piece in the blood. After working in a path lab in northern Australia - I know there’s a key in the blood.
Thank you so much again for everything you do and the voice that you give the right side.
Arohanui
Angharad
I am just an ordinary bod, who would like to live an extraordinary life like everyone else, if the YXZs who want to interfere with our private business would just mind their own business!
I respect you and your position Mike, because you have stated your claim and been balanced in defending your claim from the beginning.
Dr David Martin is another, who has been solid from the start and has not given ground.
David says CV is not a virus, but a technology designed using a viral model.
https://www.uimedianetwork.com/293534/the-great-setup-part1.htm.
I trust "this science", because it stands in the face of all the other raging wars between experts and non-experts, muddying the waters of discourse.
This explanation explains, why doctors and scientists and various others are going up their trees and hurling nuts at each other, over this, that and the other!
Very few seem to really understand what are the real foundational facts.
They are not occupying the same foundational ground and therefore cannot see the whole picture clearly.
Mike, David and a few others make sense to me.
The rest make some sense, but not enough for me to buy their cars!
What do I know?
I'm just an ordinary bod who prefers riding a horse to driving a car!